Bennu Game Development

English Forums => Other DIV-likes => DivDX => Topic started by: MikeDX on May 23, 2016, 01:40:51 PM

Title: MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: MikeDX on May 23, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
After a lot of hard work, failure and success, I am pleased to announce DIVDX now has full MODE8 support.

This brings the compatibility of DIV2 and DIV1 to 100% without exception.

Mode8 was the final piece of the puzzle to be solved, and because it was all in 32bit watcom assembly, it had to be ported to C.

The man who helped made this happen is Fransesco who you may know from GEMIX - One of the projects that aims to be DIV2 compatible.

I have uploaded a demo online to try, and see it working in full 8bit glory!


(http://i.imgur.com/kNzu21z.png)

http://js.mikedx.co.uk/mode8test.html

Look out for mode8 in a nightly build soon!
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: SplinterGU on May 23, 2016, 02:29:37 PM
fantastic! great work!
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: Erkosone on May 24, 2016, 08:30:06 AM
Awesome!
Congratulations for completion this feature!
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: panreyes on May 24, 2016, 12:30:28 PM
Quote from: MikeDX on May 23, 2016, 01:40:51 PM
The man who helped made this happen is Fransesco who you may know from GEMIX - One of the projects that aims to be DIV2 compatible.

Sorry for being the killjoy, but Francesco (AKA CICTEC) has threatened some of us of taking legal actions for *reasons*.

One of them, five months ago, was about AmakaST and Darío talking to give support to GEMIX's FPG and MAP "propietary" formats, and CICTEC sent a "cease and desist or legal actions" to them. Cictec claimed that AmakaST and Darío's actions were compromising the integrity and security of Gemix's FPG and MAP formats.

You may see that discussion here:
http://forum.bennugd.org/index.php?topic=4144.msg65817#msg65817

I'm sorry about this offtopic, but as you mentioned him I think you should know he's not welcome here.
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: MikeDX on May 24, 2016, 05:20:06 PM
Quote from: panreyes on May 24, 2016, 12:30:28 PM

Sorry for being the killjoy, but Francesco (AKA CICTEC) has threatened some of us of taking legal actions for *reasons*.

One of them, five months ago, was about AmakaST and Darío talking to give support to GEMIX's FPG and MAP "propietary" formats, and CICTEC sent a "cease and desist or legal actions" to them. Cictec claimed that AmakaST and Darío's actions were compromising the integrity and security of Gemix's FPG and MAP formats.

You may see that discussion here:
http://forum.bennugd.org/index.php?topic=4144.msg65817#msg65817

I'm sorry about this offtopic, but as you mentioned him I think you should know he's not welcome here.


Yes, I know he comes with a dark past - but I have to give him credit as he made it happen.

This doesn't mean I condone any action he has taken in the past :)
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: panreyes on May 24, 2016, 06:01:05 PM
Okay, nice. I agree with your thinking :)
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: darío on May 24, 2016, 07:33:46 PM
Going back to the original topic, it is a nice piece of work no matter who did it so congratulations and keep the hard work.

Regarding the offtopic I just wanted to say that I explained the situation and I consider it a unfortunate missunderstanding of intentions and was discussed and closed.
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: Drumpi on May 26, 2016, 12:56:21 AM
Eeeerr... No, I'm not going to talk about offtopic.

Hype, hype, HYPE!!!
Congratulations! It's an awesome news. Old Mode8, whit their bugs... whatever they were, it's a nostalgic piece of art. And now, with the Doom Reboot, it's a perfect timing to see it back.
More incredible is it's almost stable 60 framerate (some drops) on this soon beta and running in Firefox Browser.

One thing I saw now (I don't know if it happens in DIV2) is, if you walk to a side of the balcony area, you can't see the rest of the level from the outside (looking to inside, the left part is the most visible: you cant see the "dark rooms" from the outside). Maybe an invisible walls feature of Mode8 :P
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: FreeYourMind on June 01, 2016, 11:24:56 AM
Congratulations!

Of course, we cannot forget the origin of all this work and give credits also to the original author of original mode8 take by original div2 team:

http://www.ii.uib.no/~alexey/vpe/index.html
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: SplinterGU on June 01, 2016, 03:07:43 PM
Quote from: FreeYourMind on June 01, 2016, 11:24:56 AM
Congratulations!

Of course, we cannot forget the origin of all this work and give credits also to the original author of original mode8 take by original div2 team:

http://www.ii.uib.no/~alexey/vpe/index.html


what you mean? you say that this is a port from vpe lib?
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: FreeYourMind on June 01, 2016, 03:19:07 PM
refresh your mind my friend xDD

http://forum.bennugd.org/index.php?topic=1727.30

Quote from: Transdiv on November 01, 2010, 03:28:12 PM
Esta es la pagina del motor que se uso en el Modo 8 del Div2 : http://www.ii.uib.no/~alexey/vpe/index.html (http://www.ii.uib.no/%7Ealexey/vpe/index.html), que increible que el tio todavia tenga la página a pesar de los años. Lo ideal seria conseguirse el port a las Allegro que se hizo (lo hizo otra persona, pero su pagina ya no esta), ya que de alguna manera se parecen a las SDL (manejo de superficies,etc...)
Lo malo es que usa bastante assembler y en modo protegido y esa hierbas asi que un port no se que tan facil sera.

Los derechos me imagino que los tendra la empresa que absorvio a Fasttrack.

PD: Me corrigo; Parece que Fastrack todavia existe y vende el Div2 : DIV]http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00004VXJ5?ie=UTF8&tag=htbsgampro-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00004VXJ5]DIV (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00004VXJ5?ie=UTF8&tag=htbsgampro-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00004VXJ5)
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: SplinterGU on June 01, 2016, 05:13:09 PM
Quote from: FreeYourMind on June 01, 2016, 03:19:07 PM
refresh your mind my friend xDD

http://forum.bennugd.org/index.php?topic=1727.30

Quote from: Transdiv on November 01, 2010, 03:28:12 PM
Esta es la pagina del motor que se uso en el Modo 8 del Div2 : http://www.ii.uib.no/~alexey/vpe/index.html (http://www.ii.uib.no/%7Ealexey/vpe/index.html), que increible que el tio todavia tenga la página a pesar de los años. Lo ideal seria conseguirse el port a las Allegro que se hizo (lo hizo otra persona, pero su pagina ya no esta), ya que de alguna manera se parecen a las SDL (manejo de superficies,etc...)
Lo malo es que usa bastante assembler y en modo protegido y esa hierbas asi que un port no se que tan facil sera.

Los derechos me imagino que los tendra la empresa que absorvio a Fasttrack.

PD: Me corrigo; Parece que Fastrack todavia existe y vende el Div2 : DIV]http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00004VXJ5?ie=UTF8&tag=htbsgampro-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00004VXJ5]DIV (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00004VXJ5?ie=UTF8&tag=htbsgampro-21&linkCode=as2&camp=1634&creative=19450&creativeASIN=B00004VXJ5)


thanks!
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: MikeDX on June 10, 2016, 08:31:38 PM
Yes this is correct, the mode8 engine in DIV2 was a modified VPE (modified engine and customised WLD format)

I had contacted the author prior to this and he has no issues with me continuing to use it :)
Title: Re:MODE8 IS ALIVE! 3D (ish) games are back in DIV
Post by: FreeYourMind on June 11, 2016, 07:37:25 AM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_k34iAeFhM14/TMaS0Nqe8dI/AAAAAAAAAfU/duays8ydgpU/s320/sombrero.gif)