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Title: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: josebita on May 10, 2011, 09:20:43 AM
Slainte and Cebrian have given their permission and finally BennuGD changes its license to Zlib.
This is very important because it allows (amongst other things) you to:

The full text with many more details here:
http://www.bennugd.org/node/138

Please, spread the word as much as possible.

[Edit] Splinter should be the one announcing this but he's offline now and I just couldn't resist...
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: josebita on May 10, 2011, 09:36:59 AM
I thought you weren't ditributing Arora Rift on FunGP for that reason...
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: handsource-dyko on May 10, 2011, 11:26:19 AM
??? I have a few questions.

Does the license change affect the license of existing programs, i.e. do I have to update the license text of my projects? (since they are gpl 2 licensed).
And does bennu remain opensource/free software?

Was the LPGL considered as well? And did this have any disadvantages regarding the Apple app store and the android market place?
I can Imagine it might have been problematic with consoles.

Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: josebita on May 10, 2011, 12:00:18 PM
Quote from: handsource-dyko on May 10, 2011, 11:26:19 AM
??? I have a few questions.

Does the license change affect the license of existing programs, i.e. do I have to update the license text of my projects? (since they are gpl 2 licensed).
And does bennu remain opensource/free software?
The license change doesn't affect your programs. You can still create games that will be licensed as anything you like.
And yes, BennuGD will remain open source.

The change has only been done to be able to reach many other platforms were one couldn't publish right now.

Quote from: handsource-dyko on May 10, 2011, 11:26:19 AM
Was the LPGL considered as well? And did this have any disadvantages regarding the Apple app store and the android market place?
I can Imagine it might have been problematic with consoles.
The LGPL had the same problems as the GPL. You can read more on the issue on the Free Software Foundation's blog:
http://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: handsource-dyko on May 10, 2011, 12:52:54 PM
That nasty Apple. They basically restrict what users can do with the product. I can understand this from consoles since Nintendo and such use NDA's because you have to be a licensed developer. But Apple kind of sits in between, they want a lot of developers, but also want to strictly control the product. This must be very constraining and not very developer friendly. Google seems to be a bit more liberal. Apple is just strange. I've got an Ipod shuffle, but Apple wants users to use that bloated and awkward Itunes app, but luckely I can use Winamp to put stuff on my Ipod.
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: BlackCurtain on May 10, 2011, 02:56:31 PM
Quote from: josebita on May 10, 2011, 09:36:59 AM
I thought you weren't ditributing Arora Rift on FunGP for that reason...
No because of the DRM issues.
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: josebita on May 10, 2011, 03:28:17 PM
DRM is not a problem, once the license is changed.
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: BlackCurtain on May 10, 2011, 06:39:12 PM
Quote from: josebita on May 10, 2011, 03:28:17 PM
DRM is not a problem, once the license is changed.
Hopefully GPH feels the same way, as it is their policy that all commercial games sold at fungp most use their own DRM system.
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: FreeYourMind on May 10, 2011, 07:27:17 PM
I say you again, if we use their DRM system in a module for Bennu, the Bennu games can be shell on their FunGP market.
Right now, i'm working on the DRM module for Bennu using their code...
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: SplinterGU on May 10, 2011, 08:14:00 PM
Quote from: FreeYourMind on May 10, 2011, 07:27:17 PM
I say you again, if we use their DRM system in a module for Bennu, the Bennu games can be shell on their FunGP market.
Right now, i'm working on the DRM module for Bennu using their code...

shell or sell?
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: darío on May 10, 2011, 08:23:44 PM
sold :P
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: tmoney on May 10, 2011, 09:16:44 PM
fungp, at least the english site, is broken anyway.
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: SplinterGU on May 10, 2011, 09:23:21 PM
Quote from: darío on May 10, 2011, 08:23:44 PM
sold :P

sold is past
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: FreeYourMind on May 10, 2011, 09:50:25 PM
SHELL, i say the games can have a SHELL in the fungp market to protect them from piracy xDDDDD
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: SplinterGU on May 10, 2011, 09:52:40 PM
Quote from: FreeYourMind on May 10, 2011, 09:50:25 PM
SHELL, i say the games can have a SHELL in the fungp market to protect them from piracy xDDDDD

ha!
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: Zip on May 14, 2011, 12:57:53 PM
mmm why the game on iphone 4 (pucsion) start whit gph logo?
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: FreeYourMind on May 14, 2011, 02:11:25 PM
Quote from: Zip on May 14, 2011, 12:57:53 PM
mmm why the game on iphone 4 (pucsion) start whit gph logo?

xDDDDDD
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: SplinterGU on May 14, 2011, 03:23:01 PM
Quote from: Zip on May 14, 2011, 12:57:53 PM
mmm why the game on iphone 4 (pucsion) start whit gph logo?

because is a game that born from a GPH's contest (Game Park Holding).
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: josebita on May 14, 2011, 05:15:05 PM
Quote from: Zip on May 14, 2011, 12:57:53 PM
mmm why the game on iphone 4 (pucsion) start whit gph logo?
quick and dirty porting! ;)
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: Imerion on May 18, 2011, 02:04:03 AM
Sad to hear you had to change license because of Apple. :( Now I dislike Apple even more, if that is possible...

Still, as long as BennuGD remains free and open that is enough for me. I would have prefered GPL though, but I can understand your decision.
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: SplinterGU on May 18, 2011, 02:20:24 AM
This is pending job for me.
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: handsource-dyko on May 18, 2011, 01:22:10 PM
I'm not a very big fan of apple anymore. I used to like them when thy where the underdog, but now the easily surpass Microsoft in their "evilness". Microsoft is starting to become nicer and less evil! Don't get me wrong apple has a keen eye for design and the whole user experience thing, but is ripping people off with older less powerfull hardware for twice the price! Ram upgrades are expensive, and you cannot fix mac's your self. With pc's I can just go to any local computer store and have a computer custom built, and can more easily upgrade something. With an Imac though, if the mainboard or the screen is broken, you have to replace the entire machine when that specific model isn't produced anymore. Not to mention that apple products may only be fixed by them. They are a lot like BMW's or other premium cars. Looks nice, is over engineered, parts cost 10x as much, and have all sorts of quirks.
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: MisterN on July 17, 2011, 09:17:08 PM
when my game is complete im working out a deal with Valve to publish it on STEAM
Title: Re: [VERY IMPORTANT] BennuGD changes license to Zlib
Post by: FreeYourMind on July 17, 2011, 09:28:08 PM
Quote from: DoctorN on July 17, 2011, 09:17:08 PM
when my game is complete im working out a deal with Valve to publish it on STEAM

;D ;D ;D