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Langspec + documentation
« en: Diciembre 23, 2008, 05:11:48 pm »
I think Bennu/Fenix is very poorly documented.
I do not want to be stuck in a programming language and only have a handful of people
to my disposal to help me. =/
I want a serious development, like Microsoft. I want people all over the world to support.
What I mean is, I want at least a complete langspec/full language doc on Bennu.
Bennu supports the same code as Fenix as it is just an extension of it, no?
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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #1 en: Diciembre 23, 2008, 08:14:59 pm »


I think Bennu/Fenix is very poorly documented.
I do not want to be stuck in a programming language and only have a handful of people
to my disposal to help me. =/
I want a serious development, like Microsoft. I want people all over the world to support.
What I mean is, I want at least a complete langspec/full language doc on Bennu.
Bennu supports the same code as Fenix as it is just an extension of it, no?




Well, this don't is 100% true...
you know http://wiki.bennugd.org/index.php?title=Bennu_Wiki ?
Is true that wiki don't is 100% complete documentation... but my idea is get a complete documents when I finish version 1.0...
I never don't allow me to forget it.
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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #2 en: Diciembre 23, 2008, 08:16:23 pm »
Bennu not is extension of Fenix... Bennu is continuation of Fenix... Bennu is Fenix II (not Fenix 2.0)...
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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #3 en: Diciembre 23, 2008, 08:31:25 pm »
You are totally right that there needs to be proper documentation. The currently best one for this is the Bennu Wiki, like SplinterGU linked; feel free to add and correct. However, you can't really expect this to be done in a Microsoft-way. After all, we are doing this for free and do not have money to enforce a monopoly.  ;)
But please, tell me how I can make the wiki better.

Fenix is a language and a game engine in one. Bennu, however, is just the language, like Java. Various modules provide you with various tools; the standard modules provide a superset of what Fenix offered. But Bennu has a much more powerful module system, which enables better integrated modules. If you want to compare Bennu to Fenix, there are many things to mention. For example: the core is faster, because of optimizations; 32bit support; goto; modularity; awesome module system; improved debugger (mod_debug); fixed inconsistencies; numerous bugfixes; error report line according to a standard; no Spanish errors; no quit caused by simple errors; damn I can go on like this for days.

If you want people all over the world to support Bennu, show them what it can do by making a killer game (or application). Like I heard you were making a Bomberman-like game: good stuff. It can actually run on the Wii (Bennu runs on the Wii).
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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #4 en: Diciembre 23, 2008, 10:16:55 pm »
Cita de: Sandman
no Spanish errors
Wait a minute.. I got a Spanish error still.. =P. Something in the likes of:
"la version no es una compatibele version DCB 7 o no es balbalba.."

Also, is Bennu comparable in syntax to Fenix or is it exactly the same as Fenix?
I'm still confused about the differences.
Perhaps I should read up on it. =P
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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #5 en: Diciembre 23, 2008, 11:23:47 pm »
Maybe some text continue in spanish... but are less that fenix...
I was development Fenix in the last years (only programmer), then cause that I've problems with some trolls in Fenix Community... I decide change the project name in my develop Fenix 0.93 version... then version that would be Fenix 0.93 now is named Bennu 0.93, and will be released like as.
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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #6 en: Diciembre 24, 2008, 11:32:47 am »
Bennu is in every way a superset of Fenix. Everything you can do in Fenix, you can do in Bennu and more. So Fenix code will run in Bennu, provided the correct modules are imported.
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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #7 en: Diciembre 24, 2008, 02:33:46 pm »
There is no doubt of the fundamental thing of the documentation, but good… on the other hand I must recognize that the partial indocumentación locks up certain mystery, which produces certain attraction… and to be discovering it is really interesting :-)

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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #8 en: Diciembre 24, 2008, 04:38:49 pm »
Treval, It's not comfortable to me to read your messages because they are little smaller and have little less contrast. I'm using a 9 inch laptop monitor.

Anyway, I suggest you to use a CSS changer or something like that, in order to have the forums display with the design you want.

This one is for Firefox: Stylish
https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/addon/2108

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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #9 en: Diciembre 25, 2008, 12:09:36 pm »
Here is the code that will do what you want in Stylish:
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@namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

@-moz-document domain("forum.bennugd.org") {
  .post {
    font-size:8pt;
  }
}

Please do not style your own posts, because this will remove the ability for others to use Stylish (or something similar) on your posts and in PiXeL's case he has trouble reading it. And frankly, it's also annoying. Thank you.

Btw, I'm now using Stylish too, for the same purpose, but I use 9pt instead of 8pt and I like it.
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Re: Langspec + documentation
« Respuesta #10 en: Diciembre 27, 2008, 04:21:04 pm »
Treval, It's not comfortable to me to read your messages because they are little smaller and have little less contrast. I'm using a 9 inch laptop monitor.

Anyway, I suggest you to use a CSS changer or something like that, in order to have the forums display with the design you want.

This one is for Firefox: Stylish
https://addons.mozilla.org/es-ES/firefox/addon/2108
I removed the style of all of Treval's posts with permission. He's now using Stylish to have the forum in the style he wants.
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